Ty Franck and Wes Chatham welcome Executive Producer & Showrunner, Naren Shankar, to chat through how they adapted Nemesis Games to Season 5, The Churn, and what the hell a showrunner does.

Steven Strait (Lead Actor & Producer) and Breck Eisner (Director) join Wes Chatham and Ty Franck on this episode of the official The Expanse After show to discuss the contentious relationship between writer and director, insulting Steven Spielberg, the concept of family for Belters, capturing Baltimore in a totally uncomplicated way, and the once-a-season Simpsons easter egg.

Ty and Wes sit down with Thomas Jane, a man who wears many hats—that's not a Miller joke, he directed Episode 3 in Season 5! Watch them break down Thomas' new role as a director, diverting from the scripts, and the impact of seeing Alien (1979) as children.